Wednesday, 12 August 2020

Didnt read it in the News,? our points and replies made to us,

Dear M 

Not sure your article content in last Fridays Cumberland News sufficiently presented our preceding telephone interview responses.  It would be helpful to Carlisle Residents if the points I made, summarised below, could be included in a follow-up article so that the CFLAG position is clear–

 

·         The Environment Agency proposals have back tracked and become limited to defence wall up-lifting (200mm not the 2mm stated in the article).

·         The Eden river will be carrying 2 million cubic metres of additional water in a Desmond equivalent event as at least this amount escaped past the existing defences so peak levels will be higher without other river management techniques being employed and we are worried this has not been sufficiently factored in.

·         Carlisle Flood Action group (CFLAG) is concerned that ‘conveyance’ of the Eden river water will not be aided by leaving the Eden bridges arches compromised by gravels and sand banks and spit deposit material up and down stream which can only keep flood peak levels higher (because volumes in conveyance have not been optimised through the arches early in a flood event).

·         River bank ‘smoothing’ to aid conveyance flow rates could play a much larger part than in the proposals.

·         There is real commercial concern that the Eden bridge itself (a gravity stone structure in two halves) cannot accept Despond scale flows without risk of damage.  Another Desmond without encouraging lower peak levels will inevitably close the bridge as a precaution seriously hampering movement between the north and south of the City.

 

Regards

 

John L. Kelsall

BArch, Dip Arch, MA, RIBA, MRTPI, FRSA

Chair – Carlisle Flood Action Group



12 August 2020 12:12


Thank you for your detailed reply Colin which CFLAG, with your permission would like to include on its blog page for wider viewing.

 

There is little new here but it is extremely helpful to have current clarity on the local EA perspective.  You would be surprised, I’m sure, if I did not offer a measure of repost –

 

We at CFLAG (and also via the county CRAGG) have argued from 2015 that flood risk management should comprise the application of all ‘tools in the box’ in a timely and appropriate way.  The avoidance/reduction of flooding can be achieved with the aggregation of many small positive incremental steps, indeed, we have agreed from our earliest meetings with your team that there is no ‘silver bullet’.  

 

REMOVING GRAVELS

The management of in-channel and bank/floodplain gravels and transit sediment is a corner stone to FRM.  It is not a binary issue – to do or not to do once only – it is a matter of annual maintenance.  Of course once cleared the problem areas will be replenished by the river – this is the way it has always been and I don’t think anyone that we have spoken to suggests a one-off dig would have lasting benefit which is what your reply implies.  The recent Salford University research on the river Caldew proves there is latent deposits within major rivers annually accruing from the surplus of erosion into the river and over the volume exiting through the system.  This excess used to be extracted via a regular maintenance programme through a system of suitably located catchpits which we understand ceased to be emptied not long after the transfer of assets from the NRA to the EA.  It is a national major issue to be resolved and it recurs in local advice wherever there has been a damaging flood.  This is not accidental  or coincidence it is a recurring call to reverse a damaging national EA policy recognised across the spectrum of affected communities.  Although in the case of Eden bridge (and it will apply at many other locations) the benefits may be considered minor – if it is not done it is a dis-benefit which will continue to get worse meaning other works have to be more efficient to win back even further protection to get to the same place and even then it will not be enough - a very clear example of how the funding calculator is in error as it tries to compare ‘capital’ cost benefit with what should really be on the ‘revenue’ side of the budget ie. Maintenance not project.  We have gone blue all over trying to press this point which keeps getting deflected and in that we appear to share the views of Mark Worsfold (Infrastructure UK report on EA operations 2014) which was considered by the Govt. Environment Audit Committee with recommendations that the EA appear yet to have set in place particularly in reference to the maintenance of assets.  It is appreciated that this aspect is above your level of local control but it is where you should be pushing, and vigorously, internally.

 

DEFENCE WALLS

Defence walls should be regarded as contingency second line protection.  It is the ‘tool’ of last resort as any failure or mis-calculation (I cite Melbourne Park and the Sands Centre  2005 -2015) has catastrophic consequences.  Total reliance on walled defences – which is what the Carlisle project appears to have become – is a financial expedient too far and ‘Flood Risk’ has not been significantly reduced so I would disagree with your view that increasing the wall heights offers greater benefit per £ as the risk element of a matrix remains high.  A river managed to a lower peak may cost more but offers greater risk reduction per £.  If the EA can deflect conveyance improvements to the future to counteract climate change surely this can be seen as an available benefit now.  Walls are the simplest solution to meet of needs of any modelling algorithm but they are not the best. 

 

CONVEYANCE IMPROVEMENTS

Given that the majority of riparian ownership through Carlisle is vested with public bodies I find a reluctance to engage with this valuable ‘tool’ quite astonishing.  Carlisle City Council (in the main), the County Council/central Govt.  (schools etc) and Network rail (public operator) must surely have been engaged with you on this matter – have they refused to play their part?  If so I believe the citizens of Carlisle need to be informed to make their feelings heard as it seems that potentially very useful works in the public interest are not being progressed to smooth flows through the City.

 

PHASE 3

We have been advised on a number of occasions at the outset that Phase 3 would include improvements in the vicinity of the West Coast Mainline bridge as this is acknowledged as a particular throttle point (evidence- degree of white water during Desmond) and that these improvement would be instrumental in releasing the benefits built into Phases 1 and 2 ie by improving conveyance in releasing obstruction and thereby lowering the river peak.  It appears the necessary improvements are out of EA hands and in the control of Network Rail with no time line or surety.  An impasse can be seen in prospect with the Rail Act –v- the Environment Act compromising a flood friendly solution on infrastructure finance grounds.

 

It appears to us that Phase 3 is likely to offer little prospect of increasing conveyance  without improvements to the viaduct and that as a consequence the conveyance improvements that could have been integral with Phases 1 and 2 have been abandoned for a simple higher level of containment.  We do not believe that this is what many would believe to represent Flood Risk Management only physical protection retaining latent risk.

 

Regards

 

John L. Kelsall


Good morning John, 12 August 2020 08:44

 

Thank you for your email it is helpful for us to hear the feedback that you are getting through other channels. I have responded to your questions below and hopefully this will help you explain the situation to the residents that you have been speaking to. If you need anything further from us to support you in these conversations please let me know. 

 

Removing gravel from the channel, with a view to improving conveyance under Eden Bridge, would provide a slight benefit in terms of flood risk. Our analysis, which we think is supported by evidence collected during and immediately following Storm Desmond, shows that the benefit is very minor. We have tried to explain this within the FAQs section of the Carlisle Phase 2 pages on the Flood Hub. Furthermore, one of the issues with removing gravel that has been deposited by the river is that the benefit is only temporary. Gravel is deposited in these locations because there is insufficient energy in the river at this point to convey the gravels further downstream. This situation is unlikely to change and it is reasonable to expect gravel that is removed to be replenished by the river over time. This would also mean that the flood risk benefit would diminish over time and the exercise would, at some point, need to be repeated in order to recover the benefit (for which further funding would need to be sought). 

 

There are often many ways of reducing flood risk to a town or city and the main purpose of our appraisal work is to identify which of these can provide the greatest reduction in risk for the money invested. In the case of Carlisle, we believe that the benefits of raising the flood defences upstream of the Sands Centre will have a greater benefit in terms of reduced flood risk than excavating river gravels from the channel. We also have much more confidence in the way this benefit will be sustained over time. 

 

You also raise the question of wider conveyance improvements works along the River Eden through Carlisle. You are correct that there are a number of ways that conveyance could be improved along the existing river corridor and this would also reduce flood risk in the city by lowering peak water levels in the river. However, it is unlikely that these measures alone could provide the Storm Desmond level of protection that we are seeking to deliver. Each of these conveyance improvement options also have their own challenges associated with them, often involving third party assets, which could take longer to resolve. We believe that the options being proposed by the Environment Agency throughout the City represent the most efficient way of using the money allocated to Carlisle following Storm Desmond to provide the desired standard of protection. 

 

It is probably unlikely that we would receive further funding in the future to raise the flood defences in Carlisle again. So, as our climate changes the standard of protection provided by these structures will slowly reduce. We see the option of trying to increase conveyance within the channel as being one of a range of opportunities to mitigate the effects of climate change and would hope to be able to work with our partners to realise these benefits as opportunities occur. 

 

A good example of this is the work that we are doing at the moment in collaboration with Network Rail. By working with them throughout the planning of their maintenance works on the Eden Viaduct (the West Coast Main Line crossing); both organisations are hoping to identify design solutions which not only meet Network Rails requirements but also improve the conveyance capacity of the structure.  This work is ongoing at the moment and we have shared the hydraulic modelling that we have developed with Network Rail to help with this process. This work does not form part of our planned phase 3 scheme as we cannot currently provide the certainty that our business case requires. What this does mean though is that any conveyance improvements at the structure which can be achieved will be in addition to those provided by the Carlisle Flood Risk Management Scheme.  Furthermore, the analysis that we have undertaken indicates that improving the conveyance at the Eden Viaduct will not reduce water levels as far upstream as Eden Bridge, so delivery of this would not affect the decisions we have made regarding the nature of the Phase 2 works.

 

Kind regards, 

 

Colin


Hi Pete   05 August 2020 17:21

 

Thank you for the feedback.  The numbers of those interested is not a surprise.

 

The only thing we are hearing (apart from the longstanding concern that the Sands Centre should not have been developed on the flood plain) is amazement that the opportunity is not being taken to open the arches and clear the channel of gravel banks/obstructions and the smoothing of the banks to maximise flow rates.

 

Richard and I also remain very sceptical that a gravity bridge with large parts older than 200 years can be relied upon to take Desmond peak rates +.  The consequences of getting this wrong will be commercially catastrophic let alone the high potential for loss of life if the bridge is not closed in time (nb. Last time when the bridge was closed by the flood there were many sight seers on the bridge before the police put in a barrier).

 

If, as we have been told, the gravel and bank work at this major pinch point will have negative effect because the up and down stream flows balance then are you not pre judging that Phase 3 work which should free conveyance to the west will also not be effective (ie physically defend only)?  If Phase 3 improves conveyance ie via improvements such as at the West Coast rail line bridge then the Eden Bridge work increases in merit and value yet it will have already been passed over by being discounted within Phase 2.  It seems to us that there is little in the way of improvements to conveyance management or co-ordination of river peak timing in the project generally only bank and wall containment (the Petteril on Melbourne Park) and flood wall raising (Eden adj Hardwicke Circus etc).

 

We, and I am sure many others, are disillusioned that the works outlined at the public liaison events are not fully coming to fruition.  Remember if we have another Desmond the defences and infrastructure will have to cope with the damaging extreme peaks as before plus the extra 2 million cubic meters that escaped passed the defences which caused such misery – a seriously large ask indeed.

 

Regards

 

John


Hi John, Richard  05 August 2020 16:4

 

I have just been told by Newground that since the Ph2 page went live at midday on Friday on FloodHub we have had 492 views of the Carlisle Ph2 page. Unsure if any of those are “repeat” visits but sounds really positive in terms of people being able to access the information.  I’d expect it to grow with Volkers presence on site today to start pre works and compound set up, so it would be great to hear any feedback you’re getting from residents and for you to signpost any questions you receive to this resource.

 

Friday, 31 July 2020

Carlisle Phase 2 FRMS online

Carlisle Phase 2 FRMS online. This information  is available for 
you to review immediately, and will be made available for full public 
access at midday tomorrow (Friday). Please follow this link to access 
the website – www.thefloodhub.co.uk/carlisle-phase-2

Tuesday, 28 July 2020

Changes to the Flood Warning Service

From  @environment-agency.gov.uk


Dear Community Group member,

I would like to update you on the current situation regarding the flood warning service. 

Back in April, the Environment Agency nationally put measures in place to protect the flood warning service. These measures are outlined in the attached briefing note. We recently asked for feedback on any flood alert areas which may need to be added to the list we would issue. This follows the easing of lockdown restrictions and tourist hotspots across the area becoming busier. 

Following feedback from yourselves and our internal incident duty staff, the updated list of flood alert areas within Cumbria which would be issued when necessary is shown below. The additional areas will “go live” from Wednesday 29 July.  

Although none of these may apply to your particular location, I thought it would be useful to let you know which alerts will now be issued under the appropriate circumstances. 

          Original list of flood alerts from April 2020: 

·         Rivers Caldew and Petteril

·         Lower River Eden

·         Rivers Esk and Irthing

·         Rivers Lowther and Eamont

 

To be added to the list to issue from Wednesday 29 July 2020:

 

·         Rivers Cocker, Marron and Derwent

·         Upper River Derwent, Stonethwaite Beck and Derwent Water

·         Rivers Greta, St John’s Beck and Bassenthwaite Lake

·         Rivers Ehen, Calder, Irt and Esk

·         Rivers Duddon, Crake, and Mill Beck

·         Rivers Brathay, Rothay and Winster

 

The national guidance relating to the flood warning service is being reviewed on a monthly basis. I will keep you informed of any updates


Background

We are currently planning for how to protect our flood warning service if severe resource constraints prevent our usual level of operation during the Coronavirus pandemic period.

The Coronavirus pandemic is anticipated to place extraordinary pressure on the Environment Agency, particularly as sickness and other absences peak. Consequently, we propose some changes to the Flood Warning Service so we can continue to issue warnings wherever reasonable and practicable in the current circumstances. These changes are also intended to preserve our ability to provide warnings where most necessary and to support our activities during the Coronavirus pandemic period to protect lives and livelihoods.

Changes to the Flood Warning Service

The EA’s flood warning service provides three types of messages that help people prepare for flooding and take action:

  • Flood Alerts flooding is possible; be prepared

  • Flood Warnings flooding is expected; immediate action required

  • Severe Flood Warnings severe flooding; danger to life

    In order to sustain an effective flood warning service during the Coronavirus pandemic, the Environment Agency (EA) will be making some minor changes to the service.

    These measures are being introduced to ensure we protect our critical Flood Warning and Severe Flood Warning services, which protect lives and livelihoods, whist minimising disruption and potential anxiety in communities.

    Flood Alerts

    We will Issue Flood Alerts by exception only.

    We will only issue Flood Alerts where:

  • spray / waves overtopping may cause risk to life

  • lives may be at risk due to minor road closures

  • livelihoods depend on them in farming communities

  • the Alert will prompt an operational action by communities or partners, for example putting out property level flood defences.

    customer service line 03708 506 506 floodline 03459 88 11 88


Monday, 21 October 2019

Rain stops play, Don't panic,

         The release from the EA implies some protection is in place by stating ‘flood risk will not be increased by the delay’. 
That is of course only saying that it has not been made any worse and protection is still only at pre Desmond conditions.
·         An autumn start has inevitably run into to weather issues – this was predictable and a spring summer start should have been implemented for a 2019 improved protection.
·         Delays such as this never come cheap and the cost will further dilute the capital sum available for works.

 Should we mention, bridge on Warwick Road,?
 will the xmas lights be Red Amber Green and on slow this year

Environment Agency News Release Monday 21 October 2019


Work paused on the Carlisle Flood Risk Management Scheme for the winter 
The Environment Agency has taken the decision to temporarily pause construction of Phase 1 of the Carlisle flood risk management scheme during the winter months. 
Since construction started in July 2019, we have encountered the wettest August and September in the last 30 years according to the Met Office. This has made working conditions for machinery and our teams on the ground difficult for both the in river works and embankment construction. 
Works to date have been focussed in the Warwick Road area. The decision to pause has not been taken lightly and we consider it will be of greater benefit in the long run to pause rather than attempt to carry on through winter when we are likely to make little progress. Much of our plant and equipment will be moved from Melbourne Park in November and will return in 2020. 
The change in the works timetable will not increase the flood risk to the local area. In addition to this flood scheme we have been preparing for the wetter winter period. Our 2019 winter readiness plans remain unchanged and include: replacing flood gates at the Caldew Maltings; control panel repairs at Little Caldew pumping station; repairs to flood embankments at Willowholme and Parham Beck; repairs to Durranhill flood storage basin; as well as regularly removing blockages and debris that would have increased flood risk. 
Stewart Mounsey, flood manager for Cumbria, said: ‘I would like to reassure people that pause doesn’t mean stop. We will be busy behind the scenes working with our designers and contractor to plan our works for an accelerated start in spring 2020. Although we won’t be building embankments in the winter the public may see some activity in the winter months that will be supporting the accelerated return. 
‘The pause does not affect the completion of our works which were originally planned for spring 2020 to enable the new defences to be built ahead of winter 2020. Pausing main construction works in winter 2019 will not affect our 2020 winter readiness or our ongoing preparations for delivery of Phases 2 and 3.’ 
We can never fully protect people from future flooding, so we would ask residents at risk of flooding to prepare in advance by going online at https://flood-warning-information.service.gov.uk/warnings and signing up for free flood warnings. Alternatively, they can telephone the Environment Agency Floodline on 0345 988 1188 and find out what they can do to protect themselves and their property when flooding hits. 
--- ENDS --- 
Notes to editor 
· It is also important to plan how you’ll respond to a flood. Visit https://www.gov.uk/prepare-for-flooding/future-flooding and use the template to make a personal or community wide flood action plan. 
· The community can find more information about funding flood risk management schemes at www.cumbriastrategicfloodpartnership.org 
For media enquiries please contact the press office on 0800 917 9252 
Out of hours please call 0800 028 1989 and ask for the duty press officer 
Follow us on Twitter @EnvAgencynNW www.gov.uk/environment-agency

Friday, 30 August 2019

Botcherby Botched bridge

All Our Readers

Botcherby Bridge 'Smoothing' works showing diversion of the river under 
one arch.

The Environment Agency is hell-bent on 'No Dredging'. It appears OK for 
extensive dredging down south, and also on the River Tyne at Haydon 
Bridge.
In the interests of maximising the efficiency of this obstructive bridge 
why not clear the channel by dredging for maximum conveyance.

At the recent kick-off of the Carlisle Phase 1 Melbourne Park raising 
and extending the flood embankment, the issue of fallen trees in the 
river channel was pointed out in the presence Sir John Bevan of the 
Environment Agency - any trees washed down to the Botcherby  Bridge will 
potentially negate all the raising of the flood defences, and we will 
inevitably be flooded once  again .

Many members of the public have reported this problem to me, of fallen 
trees in the
   river channel and in turn I have reported it to the EA numerous times 
with no positive response.

Whoever is responsible, be it the Carlisle City Council as 'Riparian 
Owner', the Environment Agency from a maintenance perspective please let 
us have some action.

A recent report regarding the River Petteril from downstream of 
Botcherby Bridge, a member of
  the general public was informed whilst removing various shopping 
trolley and other such detritus that they could be prosecuted for going 
into the river bed.
Everybody wants to be in charge and nobody is doing anything about it.
Please let us have some visible action

Richard Milne
Carlisle Flood Action Group

Friday, 2 August 2019

concerns and suggestions – a phase 1 recap

CARLISLE FLOOD ALLEVIATION PHASE 1 WORK STARTS – 31ST July 2019 
Richard Milne and I were invited to the works commencement launch at Melbourne Park for the Phase 1 flood alleviation project representing Carlisle Flood Action Group (CFLAG). The project is relatively straightforward as it raises the existing flood banks around Melbourne Park by between 0.5m and 1.0m and, crucially, extends the western defence further south to protect from the outflanking and over-spilling of the Petteril that occurred at this point during the Desmond event. 
CFLAG’s view is that this is the correct place to be working first to ‘plug the defensive hole’ in the City but it is probably a project that could have started 2 years ago as the risks downstream and upstream do not appear particularly complex. Raising defences can never be the best solution to flooding problems because any breech, error or lack of future maintenance can bring unexpected devastation – far better to manage river flows within acceptable limits via catchment wide projects and annual maintenance. Botcherby Bridge and lack of general gravel and silt removal remain on our agenda as issues of concern. This project this therefore seen as a positive first step only. 
The event was hosted by Sir James Bevan, Chief Executive of the Environment Agency, and also attended by John Stevenson MP with senior members and officials from the City and County Councils. 
Whilst the event included a tour of the site and an explanation of the works involved as well as a media photo call it also provided an opportunity to raise outstanding concerns. During the event Richard and I were able to convey the following concerns and suggestions – 

· CFLAG – The area between the defences (the ‘wet’ area) are becoming quite wooded and overgrown. Surely this will add roughness in early flood and slow optimum flow through Botcherby Bridge when waters can more readily enter the Eden. 

· EA(1) – The scheme involves the removal of 5 trees which will be replaced at a 5:1 ratio but, thankfully, these were stated as being planted on the dry side of the defences. 

· EA(2) – The EA are not responsible for the parks maintenance and river bank de-vegetation. This would be the riparian owners – the City Council. 
· It is essential that the river is kept free of flotsam, particularly trees and logs that could obstruct the bridge openings. Prior advice that logs lying in the direction of flow did not constitute a risk was clearly not acceptable as the idea of their remaining in such an alignment in a flood would be clearly folly. 

· EA(1) – All such items would be cleared during the scheme. 
· Riparian park managers (Carlisle City Council) are to be consulted re future best maintenance practices. 

· CC Chief Exec – Has CFLAG raised this issue with the City previously. 

· CFLAG – yes many times, the “Desmond-12 months on” report and at the Environment Scrutiny Committee more than a year ago. 

· CFLAG – A traffic light advisory system explaining property level flood risk potential as part of property sale particulars (like current energy ratings) could target appropriate property protection measure and save wasted expenditure and improve resident safety (residents are more likely to stay in a property if they think they have protected it – this is not possible in deep flood risk like in Carlisle). This could save inappropriate losses in equity value for properties at low risk and reassure insurers. 

· Sir J. – An interesting proposal worthy of consideration. 

· CFLAG – The EA have advised that gravels would be removed to encourage water conveyance under Botcherby Bridge. We wanted to know what happened to the maintenance catch pits that were previously proposed as part of this scheme. 

· EA – more information and detail will be forthcoming. 

· CFLAG – The EA have endorsed advice from engineers Mot McDonnell that the head of water created by storage in Melbourne Park will force more water under the bridge and be self-cleansing during a flood. We take engineering advice that this would occur however that same advice suggests material moved and in suspension in this way will be deposited once the energy in the water is released ie just after the bridge and this will then restrict the downstream channel north of Botcherby Bridge and compromise oncoming volumes. 

· EA – more information and detail will be forthcoming. 

· CFLAG - Where the 17.5m datum storage level sits has yet to be shown to us in respect of where this is positioned at the bridge. Request still outstanding with EA. 

John Kelsall 
Chair – Carlisle Flood Action Group

Monday, 15 July 2019

Carlisle Phase One, Flood Risk? Management

Our thoughts.....
“Carlisle Flood Action Group welcomes this project because it is aimed at the source of the most extensive area of flooding in the City during Storm Desmond. The defence levels in this area were not comprehensive enough following the works undertaken after the 2005 flood such that the River Petteril outflanked and overtopped into the defended areas creating flood damage even greater than 2005. As a group we much prefer to see catchment-wide river management and non-permeable development kept away from the flood plain to save the need to increase defence walls and banks because we are very conscious that such engineering requires regular maintenance to maintain, particularly difficult financially after a benign period between flood events, and if they fail the degree of devastation increases. For example improved river conveyance through the pinch point at Botcherby Bridge and beyond to the Eden has to be a long term goal. In this context it is hoped that the informal storage area of Milbourne Park will become less critical in the future. The current project is therefore seen as a good ‘start’ to achieving these goals but by no means an end”.

Wednesday, 12 June 2019

13-6-19 Carlisle Utd Sunset Suite, Q&A United Utilities



Warwick Road Bridge Works, 

How will it affect you, and flooding, ask your questions, and will the EA do anything ?



United Utilities Water Limited PO Box 453

Warrington
WA55 1SE


We have almost completed our first section of work for one of our large water pipes which runs from Duranhill Road, along Warwick Road and up Victoria Place. Once this is completed we will start work on our second large water pipe which runs from Montgomery Way, along Warwick Road towards Broad Street.

Come along, meet the team and find out more about our work

We would like to invite you to our public exhibition so we can tell you more about our progress so far, and provide further information about the next stages of our work.

Carlisle United Football Club

Sunset Suite, Brunton Park

Carlisle United Football Club